Boy Scout leaders put off vote on gay membership
updated 1:10 PM EST, Wed February 6, 2013
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
- NEW: "End this awful policy," the Human Rights Campaign urges Boy Scouts of America
- The organization said last month it would consider changing its ban on openly gay members
- Boy Scout leaders put off vote scheduled for Wednesday, saying they need more input
- The vote will now be held in May at scouting's annual convention
Irving, Texas (CNN) -- Gays hoping to join the Boy Scouts will have to wait until at least May after the organization's executive board put off a vote on lifting its outright ban on openly homosexual scouts and troop leaders.
The board had been expected to vote Wednesday on a proposal to let local groups set their own policies, but said instead that it needs more time to get comment on the issue from its members.
"After careful consideration and extensive dialogue within the Scouting family, along with comments from those outside the organization, the volunteer officers of the Boy Scouts of America's National Executive Board concluded that due to the complexity of this issue, the organization needs time for a more deliberate review of its membership policy," the board said in a written statement.
The decision will now be made at the organization's annual meeting in May. About 1,400 members of the group's national council will take part during that gathering, the board said.
In the meantime, the organization will "further engage representatives of Scouting's membership and listen to their perspectives and concerns."





The decision disappointed critics who had hoped to see the organization end its ban despite a 2000 Supreme Court ruling saying it had the right to keep it.
"Every day that the Boy Scouts of America delay action is another day that discrimination prevails," said Human Rights Campaign President Chad Griffin. "Now is the time for action. Young Americans, gay and straight, are hurt by the inaction associated with today's news. The BSA leadership should end this awful policy once and for all, and open the proud tradition of Scouting to all."
Conservative groups and some religious organizations have argued against making any change, saying it would dilute the Boy Scout message of morality and potentially destroy the organization.
The Boy Scouts announced last month that the organization would consider changing the policy, a sharp reversal of its previous support for excluding openly gay members and scout leaders.
The new policy would allow local leaders to decide "consistent with each organization's mission, principles or religious beliefs" whether to open troops they sponsor to openly gay people, the group said in a statement at the time.
The proposal comes more than a decade after a Supreme Court ruling that found the organization has the right to keep gays out, but also amid declining participation in the venerable American institution.
Membership in Boy Scouts has declined by about a third since 1999. About 2.7 million people now participate in scouting nationwide, with more than 70% of troops affiliated with a church or religious groups.
The organization has also endured frequent criticism from gay rights groups and other critics who argue the Boy Scouts should not endorse discrimination.
Among more recent controversies, the organization came under fire last year after Jennifer Tyrrell, an Ohio den leader, was dismissed by her local Boy Scout officials for being a lesbian.
On Tuesday, Tyrell delivered a petition she said was signed by 1.4 million people supporting the change.
Before Wednesday's announcement of the delay, she said she was looking forward to the change, but added it would not go far enough.
"If this ban is lifted, it's a great first step," she said Wednesday on CNN's "Starting Point." "But it's still going to lead to kids being rejected. Families are still going to be turned away."
Brandy Pryde, a troop leader who participated in a prayer vigil outside the Boy Scouts headquarters Wednesday, said her church would pull support from scouting if the change goes through.
"What happens when we go camping and there's units that allow gays and homosexuals and there's units that don't, how are we going to keep them separated from those units and how are we going to instill in our kids Christian values and the Biblical truth if that's allowed in our program?" she said.
A poll released Monday suggests the public is in favor of lifting the ban. The poll, conducted January 30 to February 4 by Quinnipiac University, found 55% of respondents favored lifting the ban. The school said 33% were opposed. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.
President Barack Obama -- who serves as honorary president of the national organization by virtue of his office -- also supports opening troops to everyone.
But conservative politicians and religious leaders have argued doing so would dilute the organization's voice and mission.
Some, including former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, have argued the change could destroy scouting. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention said the change could be a "catastrophe."
"What they've said to us and to other religious leaders is that they are doing this under pressure, and we're going to give people what basically amounts to a local option," Land said. "You can't have a local option of a core conviction."
Changing the policy against having openly gay leaders or scouts "would be a grave mistake," the conservative Family Research Council and dozens of other groups said in a half-page ad in USA Today this week.
The message called on the Boy Scouts to "show courage" and "stand firm for timeless values."
"Every American who believes in freedom of thought and religious liberty should be alarmed by the attacks upon the Boy Scouts, who have had core convictions about morality for 100 years," the ad said. "Every Scout takes an oath to keep himself 'morally straight.' The Boy Scouts have every right to include sexual conduct in how they define that term."
But others say scouting is suffering because of its policy on gays, not despite it.
Eagle Scout Zach Wahls, founder of Scouts for Equality, says the ban has backfired.
When he was 10, Wahls' Cub Scout pack had to find a new home because the Boy Scouts of America's policy violated the nondiscrimination rule of the school district that hosted it.
"I was confused, because my den mother, Jackie -- who is my actual mother -- was a lesbian, and nobody in our unit had any issue with that," Wahls wrote. The pack managed to find another sponsor -- a nearby church -- but "some parents pulled their kids from the pack, uncomfortable with entrusting their sons to an organization they believed engaged in discrimination."

this Is so sad the fact that people in america cant except unique differences in others. It shouldnt matter whether or not I like girls or guys if I should be voted on getting in boys scouts or girls scouts
ReplyDeletei think that is a very valid point!
Deletewhat if the morals of those who are not heterosexual, do not meet up with the standards and norms of the BSA?
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DeleteI agree it's not like they're pushing what they think and teaching it in boy scouts. And isn't boy scouts about learning and experiencing new things?! I mean it shouldn't matter wether your gay or not as long as they don't push that feeling on to the boy scouts it should be fine. That's just what I think.
DeleteI feel the exact same way, whether i'm gay or not shouldn't be the reason to why i'm "voted" into girls scouts. There shouldn't even be a vote!
DeleteBoy Scouts was created out of Britain, and every Boy Scout was born in the Christian Faith. Whether or not Homosexuals push their feelings unto another, Boy Scouts was made out of Christianity. And what Christians believe is the bible. Romans 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." Not only that but it is so that many Troops are chartered by churches that believe the same thing. This would destroy many troops as a result. Homosexuality may be wrong or not based on personal opinions, but it doesnt have a good place in the BSA
DeleteBut is the BSA's right to say what they wish, to allow it or not. The supreme court says so in the article, "The decision disappointed critics who had hoped to see the organization end its ban despite a 2000 Supreme Court ruling saying it had the right to keep it."
DeleteHonestly, judging people by their personality,character,and skills rather than their race, religion, or sexual orientation is a better way to judge them :).
ReplyDeleteI think that people shouldn't be judging other people at all. No matter how you look at it people will always be different from one another.
ReplyDeleteThe Boy Scouts of America is based of christianity, and christians believe in the bible which says in text, it is wrong to be homosexual. Allowing this would destroy Boy Scout reverance and the charters provided by the churches. They should not Pass this.
ReplyDeleteBoy scouts are not based on chistianity! It just seems that there are christian leaders. And not all christians believe its a sin even if its in the bible that homesexuallity is a sin. People should not be judged on who they like, and because of that not be aloud in a organization of their choice if you are a boy. And look at the world today people believe in god and read the bible and follow god, but they still like the same gender.
DeleteDon't believe everything you get off google. I confronted a British Boy Scout (where boy scouts came from) about the issue. He said exactly what I am stating. To be in the Boy Scout, you have to proclaim a beleif in a higher power. Which most of all religions believe it is wrong, due to the fact,many believe in the bible.
DeleteNot all chistians have a strong feeling about being a Gay. And if the BSA is a relgion based organization then they shouldnt allow other relgions in to the organization.
DeleteWhat? If its a religous organization they shouldn't allow other religions? To be in the organization, you have to believe in a higher power which many do. So they do allow many religions, but letting homosexuals in would violate what the bible says. Even if many arnt strong on the issue, many others are.
DeleteI think you should let people be happy the way they want to be gay or not.Its no body buisness what them people do as long as it dosent efeect anyone else.
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ReplyDeleteIt shouldn't matter if your gay, if you want to join an activity & get involved with something you should be able to. There shouldn't be a vote, that's just unnecessary.
ReplyDeleteI feel that you shouldn't judge a person because what they do is on them and there business.
ReplyDeletei agree that you cant judge someone, but there is always that possibility that something could happen. plus the fact that it is a club that is based on christian beliefs, they believe that homosexuality is wrong, so why bring that into the program. they have the freedom of religion, and its a religion based group, so they dont agree with it. The law shouldnt be passed based on what the group was originally founded on. and just because people dont agree with homosexuality, doesnt mean they dislike the person or is judging them, they just dont agree with the persons choices.
ReplyDeleteI think that it really doesnt matter as long as your able to fufill the requirements needed to play the activity or sport
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